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« Thread started on: Jul 16th, 2006, 9:36pm »

Hi - George Dobie here. I am the "Recruitment Boss" for the 16 Squadron Buccaneer Groundcrew website (and member of this illustrious site) and have been approched by Nige C to get some "Bucc Stories" onto the website. For starters I have copied on story that relates to myself from my time on 208 Sqn at RAF Honington in the early 80's - Hope you enjoy!
Oh by the way! - "Sooty" is RAF speak for "Engine Chappy"

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I have been trying to think of a Bucc related story that stands out in my memory, there are lots, but there is one one that comes to mind.
Picture a cold wet and windy day at Honington, not to much flying although most cabs are on the Sqn lines. Good day to catch up on the outstanding stuff say "The Grown Ups". Myself and one of the "When I grow up I want to be a "Sooty" Flight Line Mech's (Nothing wrong with that,I was one 73-79)" were tasked to do an out of phase on both starter motors and hyd pumps. This was duly done! Tractor was attached, "Teabag Wallace" towed it out of the shed, parked precisely on the spot. The ground equipment was towed next to the aircraft, I did my walk about, jumped into cockpit, both donk's started and run up to 60%. Feeling the need to up the rev's I pushed the throttle's up to 80%. As I had my head down watching the dials, I happened to look up and wondered why Teabag was moving the ground equipment whilst waving wildly. After assessing the situation, I came to the conclusion that I was infact moving, having jumped the chock. I slammed on the anchors but nothing happened - Oops! All I could see was the 12 Sqn flightline coming closer, but thankfully a few well thrown chocks stopped the bugger! Aircraft and shocked sooty with overfilled shreds pushed back into slot! Luckily Air Traffic must have been out to tea when this happened. "Flash Gordon" - well thats what I was called for the next week - "Off to save the universe" It would appear, that whilst doing my checks the wind had blown the bomb door pin flag up onto the door, and it had stuck to the old hyd oil! So, the moral of the story is - if you have an old Bucc in the back garden - as no doubt most of you do - always check your bomb door pin! (the pin isolates the hydraulic system, hence no brake pressure) shocked
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« Reply #1 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 10:27pm »

One more that makes me chuckle! If you are a bird spotter please do not be offended, it was Italian!
Message originally published on our 16 Sqn website by one of our members.

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Many memories come to mind when thinking over my three years, and all the good times had on 16 Squadron. One of the saddest but with a touch of humour memories was the owl episode during the annual detachment to Decimomanu in Sardinia. We had a number one engine which had surged, so we interscoped the compressor and found blade damage to the High Pressure Section, and that gave us the excuse to change the donk (engine). This we did during one evening and set up the aircraft to ground run the following morning.
Myself and Reggie did the pre-start checks and Reggie told me that a pair of eyes was looking back at him from up the jet pipe, so we banged on the side to no avail. Reggie screamed back to me that it was in fact a big owl. As it would not budge, Reggie said that he would don a Lox charging helmet and climb up to get it out. I said, no way, because lox and exhaust soot did not mix very well, so we agreed that the owl might just exit if I motored over on the palouste (engine start trolley), no fuel, no igniters. No joy with that, so I tried just motor and igniters, yet again no joy! To Reggie’s disgust, I decided to motor over the engine with fuel but no igniters then chop it quick. Yet again, no joy! Every time it just moved further in towards the turbine, but this time it was shaking its head from side to side, it did not like JP Quarto (JP4 fuel-Italian translation).
This now meant drastic measures had to be taken. I did not want to do this but I told Reggie(he hates me) that I would light the engine up and chop it as soon as it lit. After it had stopped, turning there was this “Bump-Bump-Bump” sound all the way down the jet pipe, and this large owl just fell out stone dead and slightly singed. I am sure that Reggie hates me to this day and never stopped telling all who would listen how horrid I was.

To this day I am truly sorry to all owls for what I did, but the ground run was successful and we made the flying programme. embarassed
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 16th, 2006, 10:35pm »

Excellent stories their Beef, the second one reminds me of the Starling that has made a nest in the Jet Age Museums Meteor NF.14, everytime, without fail, I upset this bird by knocking on the rear tail cone, it must hate me laugh
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 3:09pm »

Here are a couple of more stories from our 16 Sqn Groundcrew website archive. The guys who posted the stories were on 'XV' Sqn at Laarbruch in the mid 70's. You will get an idea of the low flying antics that went on from the texts!

Stories supplied by members Pug-H and Gran.

"Yo Joe, the Beeb were filming for the 60th Anniversary of the RAF. They also filmed a four ship that flew down the Peri-Track below the line of the ATC Tower roof (the cameras were on the roof). Remember Rob Godin (Gobby), he was up in one of those little towers (for lights I think), we had on some of the pans, to get a better view. As the four ship went past this tower was like a sapling in a gale, I'm sure Gobby went off to change his underwear shortly afterwards!!!!!! It was pretty awesome though, I've never seen a Bucc fly lower (without landing of course!!) smiley


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At a beer call, christmas 1975 just after I joined XV, Ken Tait tried convincing me that at 550 knots and at an altitudeof18 feet it would be impossible to fly a bucc into the ground, as it would be riding on it's own shockwave. Of course after several bottles of Carlsberg, and equal shots of Doppelkorn I believed every word. Ken Tait being Ken Tait spent the next almost 3 years trying to prove it or so it seemed. On one occasion on a flying exercise he flew between my block of flats and and the next on Stettiner Strasse level with my balcony window, we lived on the 3 floor! shocked
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 5:56pm »

Hiya

Thanks for these stories

I will put them onto the website when I do the next update

Thanks again

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 4:02pm »

Found this little snippet whilst trawling through some websites - one in the eye for the USN me thinks!

"We get them in here in Perth pretty often. I've been on board The Johnny Reb, John C Stennis, Nimitz and Carl Vinson.

Funny story, when I was in the airforce I was part of a training exercise in the Channel that actually "sank" the Enterprise. Scenario of a dash by the carrier group down the Channel into the North Sea, we were the bad guys.

I was on Phantoms then, mixed it up with their fleet defence guys, I think they thought we were going to be a push over - wrong......

Meanwhile a Buccaneer flight did their hiding in the waves trick and got past the air defence pickets and onto the carrier. Hypothetical multi- torpedo strike and bye bye Enterprise....

At the de-brief the US rep wanted to say how torpedo-proof the carriers were, and besides the real enemy didn't have Buccaneers.

The ranking Brit officer, Navy, remarked that the Su-24 and /or TU-22 could probably do a similar job, and both had nuclear capability......Then proceeded to discuss RN tactics in a very unfavourable comparison to those the USN had used.

Given a similar attack a few months before had failed to get through to Ark Royal, which could field far less fleet defence fighters he had a point.

That most priceless of things, a discomfited and speechless American officer, mission accomplished.......smiley "
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 15th, 2006, 4:08pm »

Here's another one that I put on "PPRuNE" - It was a forum entitled "Did we beat the Yanks"

" I was one of a hand picked team of technicians (drinking ability) who went to "Red Flag" in 83 as part of a 2 aircraft detachment to support the Jaguar Squadrons in a Pavespike role. The crews were made up from both XV and 16 Sqn from RAF Laarbruch. This was a very enjoyable trip as it got extended from 4 weeks to 6 weeks due to the Jag crews "cocking it up" (official line from AVM who was in charge, good decision, better suntan) During one of the non "Spiking" days our 2 aircraft were tasked to fly fighter escort for the Jags. On this mission the Jags were bounced by some F15's who latched onto the back of the "Pussycats" but unknown to the Yanks the 2 "fighter" escorts came out hiding, popped up behind them switched on the Pavespike pods simulating a Sidewinder lock on for the correct time limit and later came back claiming 4 "kills" grin
As you would expect the F15 jocks were not very happy bunnies especially when the video footage was shown. I will never forget one of those F15 drivers - right cocky git - spotty faced youth with "Hank the kid from Idaho" stitched on the back of his flying jacket! lipsrsealed
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 16th, 2006, 12:04pm »

Thanks once again Mr Beef for these stories, must try and get some of the other members to get there thinking caps on.

I have now made this topic a sticky so it should always be near the top of the page.

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« Reply #8 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 4:33pm »

i have head this story many times from various sources....

EX RED FLAG-some years ago, americains set up a AD zone with the gizmos and guns and missles they can, anything flying would instently be picked up due to the flat desert terrain, pair of buccs flew down a river bed/gourge, so below the level of the ground, popped up in the middle of said base, 'dropped' afew bombs and escaped via the same route before the yanks had blinked
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 4:38pm »

Hi Ian,

I heard a similar story as well, never tire of hearing it.

On another note, could you please email me with your address again as I have still yet to send your shirt to you.
Use this email hyperlink buccsociety@buccsociety.com

Cheers, Nige G.
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 4:48pm »

I have seen video footage of the Buccs doing their thing at Red Flag and you hear the Americans say " Geez, and we are supposed to shoot these guys down - How !!"

You then see the Americans go in front of the camera just watching the Buccs do their thing - Awesome

The other one I heard is on debrief at Red Flag the Bucc aircrew said that they had gone up a valley at tree top height - no trees there said the American's

Bushes under 10 feet but no trees - Cut a long story short, the RAF were not believed, cameras were set up and for some reason the Americans never argued again about what height the Buccs flew at cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 4:50pm »

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Do you know where we could get our hands on copy of the said footage, been trying for many years but have always drawn a blank!! cry
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 4:54pm »

Might be in the RAF Museum at Hendon

I know they have got a copy of a recruitment film with 12 Sqdn at Gib - Think Van Gellis, Think Low Level Flying - Think Awesome video.

Poor copy but I have ben told if anyone wants to see it all they have to do is arrange a visit to Hendon and they will sort out a viewing

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« Reply #13 on: Oct 28th, 2006, 5:02pm »

on Oct 28th, 2006, 4:54pm, NigeC wrote:
I know they have got a copy of a recruitment film with 12 Sqdn at Gib - Think Van Gellis, Think Low Level Flying - Think Awesome video.

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Got a copy of this one, very good it is too, as you mention though, my copy is of a poor quality, it is blighted by a greeny/yellow hue!! Still it is watchable.

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 25th, 2007, 1:41pm »

As a newcomer to this site, having found the link via Youtube, looking for the famous footage of Redflag77, I thought I'd put in my tenpenceworth.

In 77 I was in the ATC, I never got round to applying for my dream job of being a fast jet pilot-at this point I should point out that as far as I was concerned, my enthusiasm and self belief counted for more than my academic ability! Oh, well, the innocence of youth!

So, back to Redflag. I seem to remember that it was the usual scenario, we had Buccs,Vulcans, sunglasses, and a few crates of beer, they had everything the 'free world' could chuck at them and Mc Donalds. The footage I recall, was from an american gun camera pointing out into the desert, the radar oppos trying to find and track the (I think) two approaching Buccs. The Buccs, being at the max altitude for such an attack of about three feet at probably upwards of 450kia, blatted onto the radar intermittently;the bind being they couldn't fly through the sand dunes presumably! The next thing, all hell is let loose as the americans couldn't comprehend how this unfolding attack made them appear, totally unprepared thats what! Bucc one comes into view (wings perpendicular), skimming the desert floor, whipping up the sand off the dune it almost clips, quickly followed by Bucc two. Weapons released and away.. Job done. The americans simply couldn't believe it, and I think at least one is heard shouting encouragement to the pilots! I would love to get a copy of this film, I believe it was shown on 'nationwide' or something similar.
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